Some Ideas To Ponder On

Here is some newspaper articles from The Durango Herald, 1275 Main Ave, Durango, Colorado 81301; A Revolving Legacy, Southwest Colorado residents reveal why guns are important in their lives. Each response circles around freedom and the traditions of the West

http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&article_path=/news/05/news050814_5.htm

Soap Box Ravings feels that all of those traditions are not necessarily limited to the West.

NRA Files Suit Over Katrina Gun Seizures

In an Associated Press WorldStream article titled "NRA Files Suit Over Katrina Gun Seizures" dated 12/27/07 the following items were presented:

Comments italicized and in bold were added by Soap Box Ravings in an attempt to bring this item back towards the right from the stance of the AP's presentation.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) identified as a "powerful gun lobby organization" has hired private investigators to track down hundreds of gun owners whose firearms were seized (illegally) by New Orleans police after Hurricane Katrina.

The NRA is trying to locate gun owners (those who owned the seized firearms) for a federal lawsuit that the "lobbying group" (NRA) filed against Mayor Ray Nagin and Police Superintendent Warren Riley over the city's (illegal) seizure of firearms after the Aug. 29, 2005, hurricane.

As the flooded city descended into chaos and looting, authorities said they took guns from abandoned (evacuated) homes and from people trying to take the (legally owned and possessed) guns into shelters or onto evacuation buses in an effort to keep them out of criminals' hands. As the local police were overwhelmed, the National Guard was called in to assist in patrols.

The NRA's lawsuit marks a continuation of the group's efforts to protect Americans' constitutional right to bear arms. The group's influence in the U.S. Congress has been cited by critics as being behind most efforts to block gun law reforms (restrictions).

In the lawsuit, which is set for trial in February, the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation claim the city violated gun owners' right to bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The lawsuit says the gun owners were left at the mercy of roving gangs, home invaders, and other criminals" after Katrina. (Many New Orleans Police Officers were busy looting the city themselves as shown on national television or they disappeared and did not report for work.)

The NRA says the city seized more than 1,000 guns that were not part of any criminal investigation after the hurricane. Police have said they took only guns that had been stolen or found in abandoned homes. (When Soap Box Ravings was a police officer and was trained in the Fourth Amendment (Search & Seizure) he was trained that you only were allowed to look in areas where the object of the search could be found. In other words when looking for a stolen refrigerator, you would not be looking in someones dresser drawers. Nor would you look there for a missing person).

In April 2006, police made about 700 firearms available for owners to claim if they could present a bill of sale or an affidavit with the weapon's serial number. (In Soap Box Ravings' opinion, this is the type of "after the fact" bureaucratic behavior designed to minimize the return of the illegally seized property and one of the reasons for the lawsuit. Think about it, after a major hurrican and flooding disaster how many of you could come up with a bill of sale or an (unknown type of) affidavit for Gramp's old .38 or his deer rifle?)

In court papers filed Monday, NRA attorneys say investigators have found few of the guns' owners because the storm has scattered so many residents. NRA lawyer Daniel Holliday said investigators have identified about 300 of the gun owners and located about 75 of them. Some could be called to testify during a trial, he added. "Finding these folks has been a nightmare," Holliday said. "That is really the guts of our case - to establish that there was indeed a pattern of the police going out and taking people's guns without any legal reason to do so."

The NRA will not be satisfied until the police department has returned all the guns or reimbursed their owners. (In Soap Box Ravings opinion there should be some type of personal judgment found against the public officials responsible for the orders to confiscate private property illegally. )

Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, said the police have returned only about 100 of the 1,000 seized guns. "Obviously, we don't expect the city to find everybody. We only wanted to see a good-faith effort, and that's what the city didn't do," Gottlieb said. "It's a bad example to let them get away with it."

Soap Box Ravings can not help but wonder how many items besides firearms were confiscated by New Orleans Police Officers from "abandoned" homes that were never seen by the rightful owners again. Any property seized in a lawful police action should have been tagged and identified with the location, date and time from which it was seized. The address should have been included with the location along with any known information on who lived in that location. Homes evacuated for a storm were not abandoned. Homes that were actually abandoned would not have been abandoned until much later after the storm and flooding had done their damage. The police statement they only took firearms from "abandoned" homes has all the earmarks of damage control bulls**t.

War Is An Ugly Thing

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.


John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)

This Is Scary

“A thought on the presence of Bill Clinton. He is showing up all over in Iowa and New Hampshire, speaking, shaking hands, drawing crowds. But when he speaks, he has a tendency to speak about himself. It’s all, always, me-me-me in his gigantic bullying neediness. Still, he’s there, and he’s a draw, and the plan was that his presence would boost his wife’s fortunes. The way it was supposed to work, the logic, was this: People miss Bill. They miss the ‘90s. They miss the pre-9/11 world. So they’ll love seeing him back in the White House. So they’ll vote for Hillary. Because she’ll bring him. ‘Two for the price of one.’ It appears not to be working. Might it be that they don’t miss Bill as much as everyone thought? That they don’t actually want Bill back in the White House? Maybe. But maybe it’s this. Maybe they’d love to have him back in the White House. Maybe they just don’t want him to bring her. Maybe they miss the Cuckoo’s Nest and they’d love having Jack Nicholson’s McMurphy running through the halls. Maybe they just don’t miss Nurse Ratched. Does she have to come?” —Peggy Noonan

Soap Box Ravings finds this to be unbelievably scary. Even the possibility that someone might get elected to the nation's highest office just so their spouse could be there. This is really freaking scary!

All My Liberal friends Should Take Note of This

Today's news reports Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has pardoned a female rape victim who had been sentenced to 200 lashes for being alone with a man at the time of the attack who was not related to her.

The case had sparked international outcry. In this case, the White House had expressed its "astonishment" over the woman's sentence while our more liberal relatives in Canada called it barbaric.

The Saudi Justice Minister Abdullah bin Mohammed al-Sheik told al-Jazirah newspaper that the pardon does not mean the King doubted the country's judges, but instead acted in the "interests of the people." He said the king looks into alleviating the suffering of the citizens when he is sure that these verdicts will leave psychological effects on the convicted people, even though the King is convinced and sure that the verdicts were fair.

The rape victim was initially sentenced in November 2006 to several months in prison and 90 lashes for being alone in a car with a man with whom she was neither related nor married, a violation of the kingdom's strict religious laws regarding segregation of the sexes.

Later the court more than doubled the sentence to 200 lashes and six months prison in response to her appeal.

Soap Box Ravings was initially amazed like everyone else to see the victim punished for being raped. But he is even more amazed to see that an appeal leads to a doubling of the sentence. Remember, this is what they have done to one of their own. A little research will show you they execute foreigners in their country about twice as often as a native. They average about one beheading every other day after appeals if any.


Al-Sheik told al-Jazirah newspaper Monday that only the king could issue a pardon, and he did so despite his view that the Saudi legal system was "honest" and "fair."

"The king's order consolidates and confirms what is known about the Islamic courts," said al-Sheik. "Efficient judges look into different cases and issue their just verdicts and those convicted have the right to appeal."

Soap Box Ravings reminds all that Islamic courst are religious courts that use Islam as their basis. Saudi Arabia is the home of Wahabiism (Arabic: Al-Wahhābīyya الوهابية, Wahabism is a branch of Sunni Islam practised by those who follow the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab.) This is the dominant form of Islam found in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar, as well as some pockets of Somalia, Algeria, Palestine and Mauritania. It is considered to be one of the most strictest sects of Islam.

The rapists were convicted of raping the girl and were initially sentenced to jail terms from 10 months to five years. Their sentences were also increased after their appeals.

Some Thoughts Of President Theodore Roosevelt

President Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1919


President Roosevelt wrote the words above in a letter to the president of the American Defense Society on January 3,1919. Three days later, President Roosevelt died.

"Americanization" was a favorite theme of Roosevelt's during his later years, when he railed repeatedly against "hyphenated Americans" and the prospect of a nation "brought to ruins" by a "tangle of squabbling nationalities."

He advocated the compulsory learning of English by every naturalized citizen. "Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only language taught or used in the public schools."

He also insisted, on more than one occasion, that America has no room for what he called "fifty-fifty allegiance." In a speech made in 1917 he said, "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats over all of us."


Soap Box Ravings would concur with President Roosevelt on his thoughts expressed above. In Soap Box ravings opinion this is the crux of the matter. If you want to become a citizen, obey the laws and learn the English language. If you do not want to comply either go home or stay home. I wish you luck in your future endeavors.

China and U.S. Spar Over Trade, Product Safety

The complete story can be found here:

http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2007/12/11/china-and-us-spar-over-trade-product-safety/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fnm%2F20071211%2Fpl_nm%2Fchina_usa_dc%3B_ylt%3DAsR.mVZoMISTja.e5adHkZWs0NUE&frame=true


Trade talks with China were strained because of US anxiety over the "Made in China' label.

Soap Box Ravings can't understand why the Chinese can not build what the purchaser ordered. If the product is not made correctly as ordered then don't accept it. On the other hand if the buyer is purchasing already made products then the buyer should be responsible to ensure our import standards are met.

Soap Box ravings believes the fastest way to get Chinese products to the standard desired would be to cancel a few contracts and have the products made on this side of the world in for example Brazil, Chile, Argentina or in the Central American countries.

The Twins Are Here

At about 3:00 pm on 12/5/07 the Twins arrived. Courtesy of R&L Carriers who very expeditiously set them right into my garage. They were ordered from Granite Security through SamsClub.com.



Weighing in at about 450 lbs each, the stand 60 inches tall, they are 30 inches wide and about 23 inches deep. They are Hunter Green with gold trim. With the help of my son Ryan and my next door neighbor we got them into the house with no problem.



If you ever need to transport your firearms while moving here is how I did it. This is a bundle of three long arms. They do not touch each other, they are separated by a U-Haul paper pad which resembles a twin bed size paper blanket. While wrapping the firearms, I alternated them butt to muzzle as they seemed to fit together better. Once wrapped, the extra wrapping paper on the ends was turned back towards the center and secured with cellophane tape. Then another tape line was taped around the center. Be sure to pull the tape tight enough to ensure that the firearms can not shift around inside the wrapping.



As you can see below, they were transported and stored in my old gun cabinets. This required unloading the cabinet, wrapping the firearms, carrying the cabinet to the truck, storing the wrapped firearms in the cabinet in the bed of the truck, and then transporting to the new residence where you get to do the whole sequence in reverse.



This is the wrapping paper I used from U-Haul. It was inexpensive but since I wrapped three per bundle it was reasonable. Also, three long guns seemed to just fit into one sheet. Additionally, three long guns per bundle is approaching more than I want to carry.

Another advantage of the paper was I didn't freak out anyone of the local sheep nor did I alert any wolves as I went about my sheepdog business. They were wrapped in late December of last year and unwrapped this week yet each one arrived in excellent shape with no hint of rust.



The miracle machine that we used to move the Twins about the house is shown below. Research on-line located this little puppy at Northern Tool and Equipment. They wanted $100 to ship it to me, so I picked it up from the store in Raleigh, NC while we were in the Ft Bragg area visiting our daughter and her family. Of course their new store in Fayetteville, NC didn't open until the week after we left town.



Work on the "Man Room" continues!

Could You Expect Any Less Of William Jefferson Clinton

“Of course Bill Clinton was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. It’s proven unpopular. It would be different if the war had gone better, as it has in Afghanistan. Bill Clinton’s still for that one.

There’s a phrase for someone who’ll stick with you through thick and then and in-between: A man to tie to. Bill Clinton’s the opposite. Not only does he disappear when the going gets tough, he was never with you from the first—at least to hear him tell it. With him, history is one of the plastic arts. There is no surer guide to William Jefferson Clinton’s view of the past than what is popular in the present. All of his statements supporting the war in Iraq now have become, in a Nixonian word, inoperative. Down the memory hole they go, as if they’d never been uttered...

Bill Clinton tends to bet for and against any political proposition that involves taking a risk, then recall only the position that proved popular. That way, he can’t lose. Principle has nothing to do with it... But never fear, should the long light of history reveal that in the end this long, long struggle in Iraq has bolstered freedom and stability in that always-volatile part of the world, rest assured, Bill Clinton will have been for it all along.” —Paul Greenberg

Soap Box Ravings says you can read Paul Greenburgs entire article at: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/greenberg.html